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Old Jul 26, 2011, 08:22 PM // 20:22   #1
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I was trying to come up with a way to make warriors not useless when running around with bundles, for the sake of playing missions with heroes that require bundle running. One idea I had was to use Rage of the Ntouka and Lion's Comfort to use Save Yourselves on Rage's recharge, keeping it up ~1/3rd of the time. For the rest of the bar, I'm thinking of either speccing into command for Never Give Up! and Never Surrender! and possibly Stand Your Ground, although I am not sure there is enough energy to support that. Signet of Aggression could be used to charge up some minor adrenaline skills, such as Watch Yourself (requiring a split into tactics, so not sure that is actually a good idea). Alternatively, maybe it would be worth it to go /Rit so you can use the cheap heals for when carrying a bundle?

Obviously these are not ideal strategies (using 3 skills just to launch a SY! every 15 seconds...) but making the best of an otherwise bad situation since you can't always just drop the item, fight, then pick it back up. Anyone else have ideas for what to do in these situations (other than find human players)?
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Old Jul 26, 2011, 08:54 PM // 20:54   #2
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/Mo or /Me and attacking via Signets? Always another option.
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Old Jul 26, 2011, 10:31 PM // 22:31   #3
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Have to agree with KotCR,
making a signet wielder sounds more plausible.
If nothing else you could go Assassin's Promise + signets, then you can even use signets that normally recharge very slowly.
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Old Jul 26, 2011, 10:52 PM // 22:52   #4
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Have to agree with KotCR,
making a signet wielder sounds more plausible.
If nothing else you could go Assassin's Promise + signets, then you can even use signets that normally recharge very slowly.
Hm didn't even consider that one. That would definitely help the bad energy regen thing. I'm not sure how good Assassin's Promise + signets would be, as assassin signets are quite conditional? Necro signets might be a good choice since they are semi-spammable, even if they don't do too much.
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Old Jul 26, 2011, 11:11 PM // 23:11   #5
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There's one time when you can't drop a bundle to fight; the bonus for D'Alessio Seaboard.
There's very little a Warrior can do if he can't attack; very few skills give you adrenaline and those that do are unwieldy. Perhaps the best option is to use something like Signet of Aggression to fuel Auspicious Parry.

So ultimately I would recommend dropping the item and hitting something.
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Old Jul 27, 2011, 04:11 AM // 04:11   #6
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As Xeno states, the only mission where you can't drop the item at all is D'Alessio. I'd just go back and get it, but if I couldn't I'd probably just pretend to be a Rit and run SoS. There is probably a better solution, but it's not like D'Alessio is particularly difficult anyway.
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Old Jul 27, 2011, 04:30 AM // 04:30   #7
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I'd just go back and get it, but if I couldn't I'd probably just pretend to be a Rit and run SoS. There is probably a better solution
Not really.

SoS + bloodsong + siphon + draw > any signet build that isn't keystone.

Only downside is you need to give a standard hero another job, but there are plenty of choices.
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Old Jul 27, 2011, 07:13 AM // 07:13   #8
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So ultimately I would recommend dropping the item and hitting something.
This.


It's not like the bundle will grow legs all of a sudden and run back to its mommy.

Hell, if I was able to hench my way through Elona Reach alternately carrying those two crystals, there's no reason for anyone not to drop their bundles and start slapping them baddies.

As for D'Alessio Seaboard as a warrior - clear the path and go back for the offering thingy. Bring sprint.


EDIT: A warrior can have great fun with bundles - think of Vine Seeds in Magumma Jungle missions. A second after they're dropped they sprout and cause knockdown. If KD is not a warrior's best friend after Ambassador Zain I don't know who is.

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